CBN News 00:00
So Tim, sound of freedom has become a summer blockbuster, and it is your story. What is it been like watching the movie make more than $125 million? Now.
Tim Ballard 00:11
I just go back to just I don’t know, 30 days ago, I’m sitting with Angel studios, and they’re like, hey, the projection is looking pretty good. This was before the film came out. And they said we could hit 30 million if, if a couple of things line up. Now, I was like, wow, that’d be amazing. You double what the cost of the budget was. And to sit here, you know, a few weeks later at 125 million, and not slowing down. Like, you know, this past weekend. I saw the report, it was higher than the first weekend. And that’s not what will happen, right? Every other movie, every with every progressing week. It’s it’s less screens, it’s less money. And here we are going the opposite direction.
CBN News 00:52
What do you think is driving that interest? Why do you think people are flocking to see it?
Tim Ballard 00:59
I think a couple of things. I think it’s resonating with people. I think we live in a time where kids, children are being forgotten. I mean, people are pretending that they’re not forgetting them. But kids are extremely vulnerable right now. And then think about the things that they’re the public school teachers are trying to give them things like really pornography. It’s shocking this stuff that they want to give these kids that are only a parent’s business to talk about. You know, kids are doing something they’re trying to give kids the power of consent to do to do things like this. Isn’t this nothing to do with, you know, the children and trends and trends? The trend I caught the trans foist, okay and children. I think it’s horrifying. What’s happening. I’m very libertarian adults do what you want. I support you. I’ll fight for your right. But But children, you know, you think a 13 year old can consent. That’s scary. Because I’m watching the pedophiles salivate over all these policies. They want the kid sexualized, they want the kids to have the ability to consent to outrageous things, because what’s the next outrageous thing, it’s not even that much more outrageous, if a kid wants not consent to have sex with a 50 year old? Well, what’s more outrageous that are a kid consenting to mutilating their genitalia. So kids are under attack, people see it, the border situation 85,000 children that the US government lost into the belly of the United States, which is the largest economy of pedophilia in the world, meaning that it’s the highest consuming nation for Child Exploitation material. So kids are being hurt in a lot of ways. I think people feel it. I think there’s a spiritual warfare context to some of this stuff. And people feel that too. So when this film comes out, and it exposes bad guys doing bad things to kids, it kind of brings all these things to the surface. And then the other thing that’s happening. And you and I were talking offline about this as well, is these people coming out against the film, but they’re lying about it, and they know they are anyone who watches the film? No, there’s no there’s nothing to anon ish, or q&a adjacent. Okay, as CNN calls it, in Rolling Stone and all the others. Interestingly, Billy, this is funny story. If you go do a search from October of 2012 2014, that’s when we did the big operation on the island. All those media outlets reported on the rescue. And they, you know, glowing reports. applauding our efforts, The Guardian, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, I was on the I was on a lot of those. And all of a sudden, 10 years later, oh, now it’s not true. Or now it’s something’s wrong. No, the story didn’t change. You changed. You change you got you got you bought into this kind of woke godless kind of culture, where kids can be targeted in the name of liberating them, and people are pissed. They’re pissed that they’re being lied to by the mainstream media about the film. And because they go and see it. I’ve watched I’ve watched like podcasts and things about people’s responses. Like I went there thinking there’d be a shred of evidence of something political something Q anon. And I come out with it’s just a based on a true story about kids being rescued, and they’re furious and they go and talk. And then other people like I got to see this. It’s almost like a train wreck to some people. I gotta go see myself what’s going on? not that different.
CBN News 04:11
You see this Q anon a JSON movie, and then you watch it be? Let me let me ask you this. Because the film Yes, it deals with child exploitation. It deals with two children their story, your story as part of that, for some reason, some people walked away from the movie, and they were like, oh, Tim Ballard is set basically saying that only children are trafficked. Nobody else. I mean, there was this whole narrative created around the plot of the film. How do you respond to that? Because it seemed like you were it was just one story that was being told.
Tim Ballard 04:41
So bizarre. so bizarre. so bizarre. Human trafficking, child trafficking is so unique. And every place I say, trafficking has different faces in different places. So people are going to criticize the film because it doesn’t look like that in in, you know, in Washington State. You know, it doesn’t look like that in New York City. Well, yeah, nothing that You see in a Columbia Bay story probably looks like what you’re going to find in United States. And it’s going to be different in another place. And as we different over here and over there. So let’s just throw the whole thing out, because it doesn’t fit the narrative that I want, you know, broadcast about how trafficking happens. It is so selfish. It’s so selfish, not to me, not to the producers, that’s who they target to those kids who were rescued. I am in touch with them still, they’re young adults, now. We’re gonna bring them up soon to the United States do a summit. And I invite all those critics, I always say, your Come, come talk to us. I would love to hear you tell the kids that their stories that doesn’t deserve to be told, because when you saw it, or when it happened to your friend, it looked differently. I mean, it’s so bizarre, but it tells it the first thing you know about someone that does this, they’re putting kids and rescue and the whole mission down low on the, I’m sure they still care. But it’s not the number one thing, the number one thing is themselves, their institution, their agenda. That’s first. And that’s sad. You know, if ever that’s driving someone’s thoughts about about, you know, anything, and kids are not the number one thing, well, then you actually start to become part of the problem.
CBN News 06:14
Well, I will say this I met you about a decade ago. And when I met you, your passion for the issue has always been very clear. It was back then when we became friends and I had a chance to to hear your heart on this issue. And here you are now a decade later, you’ve allowed this story to be told you were part of telling this story. Now this movie was made a few years back and it sat correct. And I’m correct in stating that right. It sat for what was
Tim Ballard 06:43
produced, it was so another funny little fun fact it was made and produced and finished before anyone had heard the word queue and on so that also kind of like kind of walls off any potential Q anon. dogmas in the film. It was done. Bizarre, because I watched it and I’m like, this seems like a really good movie. Of course, I’m, I’m way too close to it. Why does it do it? Why does it not getting Why is it getting picked up? Fox produced? Disney bought Fox Disney watched it didn’t want it? They didn’t want to put it out? Like why? Why wouldn’t want to put it out? I’m sure they’re kicking themselves right now.
CBN News 07:19
Did you ever get an answer? Did you guys ever get an answer for why they they shall?
Tim Ballard 07:23
Not for us? It’s not for us. So it took a year for Eduardo would have to get to get the film out of their hands. And then and then it went to Amazon. I mean, it got pitched everywhere. Not for us, not for us, not for us. I started thinking maybe this is not a good movie. Maybe I’m so close to it. I I’m talking about the art of it. And that’s not necessarily me or my story, but like, it seems like a pretty high quality film and people who I watch watch it are like in tears and move. Why isn’t it you know, picking this up? It truly is really, I mean, it’s spiritual. It’s all God’s timing. I, I think God has the ability to put like a melees over people like a like a cloud, because it’s not for them. I don’t even blame them. I’m just, you know, when we came across Angel studios, they picked it up right away, they signed a deal in five days from the pitch to the deal, which is I don’t they said that’s never happened. And then 90 days later, we’re launching the film. So it just took off. So I think I think it’s got an 11th hour God, I think he does it on purpose. I think he like he runs a lot faster than the devil. And the devil can’t keep up he can’t get his foot all the time to get his his minions together. So he’s, that’s why he’s an 11th hour God, it’s like I can just get it done real quick before this guy can even begin to catch up. And that’s why I feel what I feel happened without a freedom.
CBN News 08:40
You know, when I look at your story, and I know your heart for this issue and fighting trafficking, when you look at the film’s success, and you go back to that conversation where you guys were talking like maybe we’ll hit 30 million, and everyone was excited for that. Here you are north of 125 million at this point. When you look at the impact of this movie, what are you hoping to see happen at the end of the day outside of the art of it and the popularity of it? What do you want to see happen?
Tim Ballard 09:08
I mean, I want kids to stop hurting. I’ve seen you know, we’ve we’ve rescued through different organizations that I’ve been a part of 1000s of kids, I’ve seen so much pain, I want them I want them to stop. And we’re going to use the power of this film, and the awareness and people now motivated and converted and understanding. We got to channel that energy into more rescues to get more kids out and healed.
CBN News 09:35
And what do you think right now? I mean, this is a hard question to answer right now, I think because we’re in the middle of this success of it. But there are a lot of organizations when you started doing this. Do you were like a pioneer in this area. There were not a lot of organizations there were not a lot of people doing what you did rescuing. Now, there are a lot of groups out there. Do you think that this film is helping those groups is is the debate hurting those groups in terms of his attention to the issue attention to their mission donations even what do you think the impact is right now?
Tim Ballard 10:06
I think that it’s early to say, but I’m doing my best to make sure that the power of this film gets to every worthy organization. And I say that through the eyes of a child, I’ve seen the darkest corners of the planet where kids are being held, the kids are held captive, and they deserve the best rescue. And there’s, there’s always a group, that’s gonna be the best possible for that kid. And it might like, I’ll just, there was a an operation recently that I helped I helped to fund. It was in a remote part of the world, I can’t say because Yeah, cuz it’s still new. And there was one organization, small, no little budget, I’d never I had never even heard of them. But they were the only ones I could find in place, right then at that moment to get the kids. And so we deployed resources, and they did it. That’s what I’m talking like, we have to find all of those organizations throughout the world, there’s like out there’s, there’s a couple 1000 into trafficking organizations. Some are really good, maybe some are better different things. But my goal now is to identify those and make sure the resources get to whoever is the best for whatever situation is required.
CBN News 11:18
Now, one of the other things that the media have picked up on of late is that you are no longer officially a part of Operation underground railroad. And a lot of the outlets that are a number of them didn’t give a lot of contexts that are information on that. What can you tell us about that?
Tim Ballard 11:34
Well, yeah, we’re going to be coming out, look at where it’s at, to accomplish my, the objective that I just stated of, how can I help all it’s, I have to be independent, to help everybody. And I, and also helping operation Underground Railroad, which is amazing. And I was still I would still call You are the premier organization, as far as I’m concerned, in rescue and rehabilitation, the Nazarene fund as well. And so what my plan is now, I have no plan to supplant either of these organizations. Over the last 10 years, I’ve sat on the board of four organizations, I’ve been the CEO of two, I founded one. So I still sit on the board of two, including Ariel recovery. And so but I, I can’t be an employee of any of them. There’s too many, there’s too much red tape, there’s too many legalities associated conflicts of interest to be able to open up and do everything I need to do and be and help direct the resources to everyone, whoever’s the whoever can do the job best in that situation. So this was not something sudden, I was talking to board members eight months ago or longer about feeling a need to be more independent, the bigger we got to be able to, I thought I could be more effective as independent, whether it’s, you know, doing through media or speaking, books consulting. And so I will not be an employee of any nonprofit one single nonprofit organization, because that only limits what I what I can do, especially when the sound of freedom was seeing the success, that’s when I really knew, Okay, even the presale started have to accelerate this plan and get and get out and be independent. So I can just consult and help. And so one of the organizations that I’m consulting amongst others, is called the spear fund, the spear fund.org. And this is not an organization, it’s really a fund. And I love it. I love what they’re doing over there. Again, I’m not an employee, because I can’t I’m not going to be entangled in any one nonprofit. But what they’re doing is the plan that I’m hoping to implement anyway, which is they’re seeking all over with experts, the best organizations for whatever need arises. And then funding those organizations. And I love it also, because the ratio to project overhead is a tremendous, because all the all the funds go directly to project to this organization, or that organization, the overhead is, is very small, there’s probably a few employees that are making salaries, everything else goes straight down to the project. So it’s a way to scale, you know, it’s way to unify and scale. And I tell people, if you if you’ve donated or given to any of those organizations that I’ve been a part of, Don’t stop. Keep doing it. Keep keep giving give more. In fact, this is not a replacement. This is a force multiplayer, so that we can bring others into the fold and make sure that the kids have the best response that they can have.
CBN News 14:32
All right, final question for you. What do you want your legacy to be? Because you’ve got a lot going on right now. There’s a lot happening. But at the end of the day, in 3040 years, when all is said and done, what do you want that legacy to be?
Tim Ballard 14:44
I would love to learn someday after I’m dead maybe that I contributed to the best solutions that ended child slavery that I was able to contribute effort, ideas, resources, Just whatever I had to to accomplishing that end goal
CBN News 15:06
Tim Ballard it’s always great to connect with you appreciate your time today
Tim Ballard 15:09
thank you Billy